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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Garry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked 6. Blue Lines would be my favourite of all of them. I&#039;ve heard a lot on the list, but most I&#039;m more familiar with the singles standalone, and only heard the albums once or twice. 

Worst is Nevermind. Nirvana missed out bit of the country as we only had top 40 radio. I only heard them mch later the fuss, and decided I had heard better rock. 

First must be Dark Side. I love it. Their most focussed album, and one of the most focussed albums on the prog era. 

Most Recent is Remain in Light. I&#039;d heard a lot of Talking Head singles, but it took me ages to stumble across an album. I once heard David Bowie called the best backing vocalist in the world. I&#039;d liike to nominate Eno as the most unexpectedly successful backing vocalist in the world. 

Tom - maybe you could run the same list again in a fortnight and see how many of the albums people have actually listened to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ticked 6. Blue Lines would be my favourite of all of them. I&#8217;ve heard a lot on the list, but most I&#8217;m more familiar with the singles standalone, and only heard the albums once or twice. </p>
<p>Worst is Nevermind. Nirvana missed out bit of the country as we only had top 40 radio. I only heard them mch later the fuss, and decided I had heard better rock. </p>
<p>First must be Dark Side. I love it. Their most focussed album, and one of the most focussed albums on the prog era. </p>
<p>Most Recent is Remain in Light. I&#8217;d heard a lot of Talking Head singles, but it took me ages to stumble across an album. I once heard David Bowie called the best backing vocalist in the world. I&#8217;d liike to nominate Eno as the most unexpectedly successful backing vocalist in the world. </p>
<p>Tom &#8211; maybe you could run the same list again in a fortnight and see how many of the albums people have actually listened to?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by The Illiterate</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Illiterate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 05:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked 26. I&#039;m easy. And old.
Worst: The Doors. Easily. Hands Down. No Doubt about it. Yup.
First love: Revolver. Now prefer Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper.
Most recent: It Takes A Nation of Millions. Of course, that&#039;s the most recent of all the ones I ticked, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ticked 26. I&#8217;m easy. And old.<br />
Worst: The Doors. Easily. Hands Down. No Doubt about it. Yup.<br />
First love: Revolver. Now prefer Rubber Soul and Sgt. Pepper.<br />
Most recent: It Takes A Nation of Millions. Of course, that&#8217;s the most recent of all the ones I ticked, too.</p>
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		<title>Comment on THE COMMUNARDS &#8211; &#8220;Don&#8217;t Leave Me This Way&#8221; by swanstep</title>
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		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Antithesis&#039; means the antithesis of what he thinks it means (haw haw). Realmusiclover also appears to have failed to grasp that freakytrigger/popular is the antithesis of a site or project that&#039;s slavishly devoted to some particular decade&#039;s output.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Antithesis&#8217; means the antithesis of what he thinks it means (haw haw). Realmusiclover also appears to have failed to grasp that freakytrigger/popular is the antithesis of a site or project that&#8217;s slavishly devoted to some particular decade&#8217;s output.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by LondonLee</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked 7 but I set the bar for &quot;love&quot; pretty high - I &lt;I&gt;like&lt;/I&gt; a lot of them - though if I was being &lt;I&gt;really&lt;/I&gt; strict I might have only ticked two.

Some strange choices on that list which kept my score lower too: &#039;Closer&#039; but not &#039;Unknown Pleasures&#039;, &#039;Remain In Light&#039; but not &#039;Fear of Music&#039; and &#039;London Calling&#039; but not &#039;The Clash&#039; - there&#039;s at least 2 I would have picked right there.

Worst? Oh, &#039;Dark Side of The Moon&#039; by a length. I could say Beefheart but he exists on some planet I don&#039;t understand which is a different thing.
First? I&#039;d say &#039;Born To Run&#039; but I didn&#039;t tick that one and &#039;A New World Record&#039; wasn&#039;t on the list.
Most recent? Jesus, I have no idea. I&#039;m old me. &#039;Sticky Fingers&#039; maybe but it were a while ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ticked 7 but I set the bar for &#8220;love&#8221; pretty high &#8211; I <i>like</i> a lot of them &#8211; though if I was being <i>really</i> strict I might have only ticked two.</p>
<p>Some strange choices on that list which kept my score lower too: &#8216;Closer&#8217; but not &#8216;Unknown Pleasures&#8217;, &#8216;Remain In Light&#8217; but not &#8216;Fear of Music&#8217; and &#8216;London Calling&#8217; but not &#8216;The Clash&#8217; &#8211; there&#8217;s at least 2 I would have picked right there.</p>
<p>Worst? Oh, &#8216;Dark Side of The Moon&#8217; by a length. I could say Beefheart but he exists on some planet I don&#8217;t understand which is a different thing.<br />
First? I&#8217;d say &#8216;Born To Run&#8217; but I didn&#8217;t tick that one and &#8216;A New World Record&#8217; wasn&#8217;t on the list.<br />
Most recent? Jesus, I have no idea. I&#8217;m old me. &#8216;Sticky Fingers&#8217; maybe but it were a while ago.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by swanstep</title>
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		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that OK Computer has so many detractors. Is this in part a reaction against it having been over-praised (&#039;best album *ever*&#039;) in various quarters ever since its release?

@Tom, 5. What&#039;s astonishing about you &amp; Led Zep IV? That you like it as much as you do? Or that, as it were, you&#039;ve only very recently come around on it?

@jonathan bogart, 10. It doesn&#039;t matter if you haven&#039;t listened to Joshua Tree in years because the sound&#039;s never gone away! Certainly for the last ten years or so, at any given time, a couple of warmed over Joshua Tree tracks have been in the charts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that OK Computer has so many detractors. Is this in part a reaction against it having been over-praised (&#8216;best album *ever*&#8217;) in various quarters ever since its release?</p>
<p>@Tom, 5. What&#8217;s astonishing about you &amp; Led Zep IV? That you like it as much as you do? Or that, as it were, you&#8217;ve only very recently come around on it?</p>
<p>@jonathan bogart, 10. It doesn&#8217;t matter if you haven&#8217;t listened to Joshua Tree in years because the sound&#8217;s never gone away! Certainly for the last ten years or so, at any given time, a couple of warmed over Joshua Tree tracks have been in the charts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And then the Lex’s bonkers category of albums you’ve never heard, yet which you love. ??&lt;/i&gt;

Well I didn&#039;t actually count those ones, it was more noting that even though I&#039;ve never heard eg a Marvin Gaye album, I am fairly sure I&#039;ll like it given what I&#039;ve already heard by him, how much I love a lot of artists influenced by him - how is this bonkers?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And then the Lex’s bonkers category of albums you’ve never heard, yet which you love. ??</i></p>
<p>Well I didn&#8217;t actually count those ones, it was more noting that even though I&#8217;ve never heard eg a Marvin Gaye album, I am fairly sure I&#8217;ll like it given what I&#8217;ve already heard by him, how much I love a lot of artists influenced by him &#8211; how is this bonkers?!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Andrew Farrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understood the Lex to be saying that there&#039;s albums that he&#039;s never heard but which enough bloggers (or artists!) that he likes have recommended that he reckons the chances of him hating them are pretty low.

Answers!

1) The Doors, The Doors, this has to be The Doors.
2) The three Dylan albums, as part of a real actual canon-on-three-C90s at college, along with Bringing It All Back Home and Oh Mercy.
3) Probably Remain In Light - it took me ages to move on from More Songs... to the rest of Talking Heads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understood the Lex to be saying that there&#8217;s albums that he&#8217;s never heard but which enough bloggers (or artists!) that he likes have recommended that he reckons the chances of him hating them are pretty low.</p>
<p>Answers!</p>
<p>1) The Doors, The Doors, this has to be The Doors.<br />
2) The three Dylan albums, as part of a real actual canon-on-three-C90s at college, along with Bringing It All Back Home and Oh Mercy.<br />
3) Probably Remain In Light &#8211; it took me ages to move on from More Songs&#8230; to the rest of Talking Heads.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Jonathan Bogart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Bogart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked all but ten, and those ten I haven&#039;t heard all the way through. (I too am an album ho. Also I started with classic rock and still love it.)

Worst: I don&#039;t know about worst, but the one whose appeal to me is most opaque is Blue Lines. It&#039;s so far off my radar I had to look it up and go &quot;oh, right, them&quot; when I saw the cover. I honestly don&#039;t think there&#039;s a bad record on here.

First: The Joshua Tree. U2 was my baptism into secular music as a teenager. Haven&#039;t listened to it in years, but the memories are fond.

Most Recent: Purple Rain. I&#039;m not sure why it took so long for me to get into Prince, but there are only so many listening hours available to one pair of ears and someone has to bat cleanup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ticked all but ten, and those ten I haven&#8217;t heard all the way through. (I too am an album ho. Also I started with classic rock and still love it.)</p>
<p>Worst: I don&#8217;t know about worst, but the one whose appeal to me is most opaque is Blue Lines. It&#8217;s so far off my radar I had to look it up and go &#8220;oh, right, them&#8221; when I saw the cover. I honestly don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a bad record on here.</p>
<p>First: The Joshua Tree. U2 was my baptism into secular music as a teenager. Haven&#8217;t listened to it in years, but the memories are fond.</p>
<p>Most Recent: Purple Rain. I&#8217;m not sure why it took so long for me to get into Prince, but there are only so many listening hours available to one pair of ears and someone has to bat cleanup.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Birdseed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Birdseed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Ok Computer, There&#039;s A Riot Going On and The White Album are white-knuckle anger-inducing hate objects for me.

2. I went through a &quot;believe what the critics suggest you believe&quot; phase before I knew better, about a decade ago. I bought and loved &quot;The Velvet Underground and Nico&quot;, &quot;Pet Sounds&quot;, &quot;What&#039;s Going On&quot;, &quot;Innervisions&quot; and &quot;Marquee Moon&quot; pretty much simultaneously.

3. One album from that period I didn&#039;t like at all which I&#039;ve recently re-evaluated is &quot;Astral Weeks&quot;, after having my roommate harp on about it and play it over and over. It&#039;s actually a fairly good record!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Ok Computer, There&#8217;s A Riot Going On and The White Album are white-knuckle anger-inducing hate objects for me.</p>
<p>2. I went through a &#8220;believe what the critics suggest you believe&#8221; phase before I knew better, about a decade ago. I bought and loved &#8220;The Velvet Underground and Nico&#8221;, &#8220;Pet Sounds&#8221;, &#8220;What&#8217;s Going On&#8221;, &#8220;Innervisions&#8221; and &#8220;Marquee Moon&#8221; pretty much simultaneously.</p>
<p>3. One album from that period I didn&#8217;t like at all which I&#8217;ve recently re-evaluated is &#8220;Astral Weeks&#8221;, after having my roommate harp on about it and play it over and over. It&#8217;s actually a fairly good record!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Tracer Hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracer Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Not sure about the worst - OK Computer, possibly?
2. Earliest - Purple Rain
3. Most recently - Exile on Main Street

There are a few other categories here. For instance, as Kat alludes, albums you used to love but haven&#039;t actually played in about 10 years. Do you really still love them? I guess so. Why not? But then there are albums you USED to love but now you don&#039;t. You might even actively despise it, drawing a line in the sand between your former self and your current one. I see a few on this list that fit that description.

And then the Lex&#039;s bonkers category of albums you&#039;ve never heard, yet which you love. ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Not sure about the worst &#8211; OK Computer, possibly?<br />
2. Earliest &#8211; Purple Rain<br />
3. Most recently &#8211; Exile on Main Street</p>
<p>There are a few other categories here. For instance, as Kat alludes, albums you used to love but haven&#8217;t actually played in about 10 years. Do you really still love them? I guess so. Why not? But then there are albums you USED to love but now you don&#8217;t. You might even actively despise it, drawing a line in the sand between your former self and your current one. I see a few on this list that fit that description.</p>
<p>And then the Lex&#8217;s bonkers category of albums you&#8217;ve never heard, yet which you love. ??</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by swanstep</title>
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		<dc:creator>swanstep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m way easier than everyone else I guess: I ticked 37!
1. WORST. Blood on the Tracks (Dylan after 1970 is dead to me)
2. FIRST. Sgt Pepper
3. LATEST. Songs in the Key of Life. (I didn&#039;t start really listening to Stevie Wonder until I heard so much of him played at various weddings over the last 10 years. This is a great album, although I dare say that it does feel more like a critics album than one people choose to listen to a lot. I love it, but not in the same way as Innervisions and esp. Talking Book, which I play regularly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m way easier than everyone else I guess: I ticked 37!<br />
1. WORST. Blood on the Tracks (Dylan after 1970 is dead to me)<br />
2. FIRST. Sgt Pepper<br />
3. LATEST. Songs in the Key of Life. (I didn&#8217;t start really listening to Stevie Wonder until I heard so much of him played at various weddings over the last 10 years. This is a great album, although I dare say that it does feel more like a critics album than one people choose to listen to a lot. I love it, but not in the same way as Innervisions and esp. Talking Book, which I play regularly.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am setting the barrier for &quot;love&quot; low I think. I am an album ho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am setting the barrier for &#8220;love&#8221; low I think. I am an album ho.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked 20 or so, there&#039;s a bunch more I like, and I&#039;m sure some of the unticked ones are simply a matter of ignorance.

1. Astral Weeks, as I said on the other thread.
2. I played Sgt P&#039;s a lot when I was 8 or 9 but I didn&#039;t love it - it was just the only record my parents owned I liked at all. So the first one would the The Queen Is Dead, I guess.
3. Led Zeppelin IV! I&#039;m as astonished as anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ticked 20 or so, there&#8217;s a bunch more I like, and I&#8217;m sure some of the unticked ones are simply a matter of ignorance.</p>
<p>1. Astral Weeks, as I said on the other thread.<br />
2. I played Sgt P&#8217;s a lot when I was 8 or 9 but I didn&#8217;t love it &#8211; it was just the only record my parents owned I liked at all. So the first one would the The Queen Is Dead, I guess.<br />
3. Led Zeppelin IV! I&#8217;m as astonished as anyone.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by lonepilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonepilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked 11 although if the question had been &#039;like a lot&#039; rather than love than &#039;love&#039; the number would have been higher.
.
1. The Joshua Tree - I just can&#039;t bear Bono&#039;s overblown, sententious persona. Or the music.
2. From ALL the records on the list - the one that I loved first would be Sgt Pepper - bought by my parents when it came out and I was 7. Of the records on the list that I STILL love the first would be Highway 61 which I first encountered in 1976.
3. The album on the list that I started to love most recently would be There&#039;s a riot goin&#039; on - probably my favourite of all these because the sum experience of the whole album is greater than the individual parts (which are themselves pretty darn good).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ticked 11 although if the question had been &#8216;like a lot&#8217; rather than love than &#8216;love&#8217; the number would have been higher.<br />
.<br />
1. The Joshua Tree &#8211; I just can&#8217;t bear Bono&#8217;s overblown, sententious persona. Or the music.<br />
2. From ALL the records on the list &#8211; the one that I loved first would be Sgt Pepper &#8211; bought by my parents when it came out and I was 7. Of the records on the list that I STILL love the first would be Highway 61 which I first encountered in 1976.<br />
3. The album on the list that I started to love most recently would be There&#8217;s a riot goin&#8217; on &#8211; probably my favourite of all these because the sum experience of the whole album is greater than the individual parts (which are themselves pretty darn good).</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Lex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ticked six, and there were 3-4 that I&#039;ve never heard but am fairly sure I&#039;d at least like. Vast majority either a) have heard and hate, b) have heard enough from to hate, c) do not interest me in the slightest.

1. Sgt Pepper UGH
2. Blue Lines or Blue, both of which I first heard circa 1995-96
3. Innervisions, which I first heard about two years ago</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ticked six, and there were 3-4 that I&#8217;ve never heard but am fairly sure I&#8217;d at least like. Vast majority either a) have heard and hate, b) have heard enough from to hate, c) do not interest me in the slightest.</p>
<p>1. Sgt Pepper UGH<br />
2. Blue Lines or Blue, both of which I first heard circa 1995-96<br />
3. Innervisions, which I first heard about two years ago</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Rory</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ticked fifteen, even though I haven&#039;t listened to several in years. Lack of familiarity prevented me from ticking more, and my Rolling Stones and Bob Dylan blind spots.

1. There were several I&#039;ve heard but didn&#039;t tick, but would be reluctant to call the worst... they just didn&#039;t click for me. London Calling, maybe.

2. First one might be Purple Rain, but it&#039;s possible I&#039;d discovered the White Album by mid-1984. Or even Never Mind the Bollocks, now that I think of it.

3. It would have to be OK Computer, because it was released after I&#039;d heard all the others. Most recent attempt to get into one which I haven&#039;t cracked yet was What&#039;s Going On a few years ago.</description>
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<p>1. There were several I&#8217;ve heard but didn&#8217;t tick, but would be reluctant to call the worst&#8230; they just didn&#8217;t click for me. London Calling, maybe.</p>
<p>2. First one might be Purple Rain, but it&#8217;s possible I&#8217;d discovered the White Album by mid-1984. Or even Never Mind the Bollocks, now that I think of it.</p>
<p>3. It would have to be OK Computer, because it was released after I&#8217;d heard all the others. Most recent attempt to get into one which I haven&#8217;t cracked yet was What&#8217;s Going On a few years ago.</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by Rory</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@85 It wasn&#039;t my way in (that was &quot;Creep&quot;, way back when it came out), but probably my favourite Radiohead moment was hearing &quot;The Pyramid Song&quot; over the radio for the first time, just as I got home; I sat in my parked car to hear it all the way through, and thought it sounded impossibly beautiful. Maybe it would to a newcomer, too. My other favourite moment was listening to Kid A while driving into Melbourne after dark, watching the rear headlights of the car in front nudging left and right in time to it as the city lights gradually built around us.

@97 I remembered the Sgt Peppers turning point being 1987, coincidentally enough, when all the 20th anniversary CD release hype (with accompanying TV documentaries) sent a whole new generation scurrying to hear it and left many thinking sure, it&#039;s good, but it&#039;s not BEST ALBUM EVER good. It had &quot;A Day in the Life&quot;, but even Magical Mystery Tour had an &quot;I am the Walrus&quot;. That was around the time Revolver became my firm favourite, after initial infatuations with Abbey Road and the White Album - possibly because it felt like the fulcrum on which early Beatles and late Beatles turned, bringing together the best of both.

Hunky Dory&gt;&gt;&gt;Ziggy Stardust, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@85 It wasn&#8217;t my way in (that was &#8220;Creep&#8221;, way back when it came out), but probably my favourite Radiohead moment was hearing &#8220;The Pyramid Song&#8221; over the radio for the first time, just as I got home; I sat in my parked car to hear it all the way through, and thought it sounded impossibly beautiful. Maybe it would to a newcomer, too. My other favourite moment was listening to Kid A while driving into Melbourne after dark, watching the rear headlights of the car in front nudging left and right in time to it as the city lights gradually built around us.</p>
<p>@97 I remembered the Sgt Peppers turning point being 1987, coincidentally enough, when all the 20th anniversary CD release hype (with accompanying TV documentaries) sent a whole new generation scurrying to hear it and left many thinking sure, it&#8217;s good, but it&#8217;s not BEST ALBUM EVER good. It had &#8220;A Day in the Life&#8221;, but even Magical Mystery Tour had an &#8220;I am the Walrus&#8221;. That was around the time Revolver became my firm favourite, after initial infatuations with Abbey Road and the White Album &#8211; possibly because it felt like the fulcrum on which early Beatles and late Beatles turned, bringing together the best of both.</p>
<p>Hunky Dory&gt;&gt;&gt;Ziggy Stardust, for sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Friday Fun Canon Discussion And Monster Poll by Kat but logged out innit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat but logged out innit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey I only ticked THREE of the above, and haven&#039;t listened to any of them in at least six years, which probably means I don&#039;t &#039;love&#039; them at all :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey I only ticked THREE of the above, and haven&#8217;t listened to any of them in at least six years, which probably means I don&#8217;t &#8216;love&#8217; them at all :(</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A post to allow further comment posse canon talk:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/03/the-friday-fun-canon-discussion-and-monster-poll/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A post to allow further comment posse canon talk:</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by LondonLee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought that Hunky Dory&gt;&gt;&gt;Ziggy Stardust and Highway 61&gt;&gt;&gt; Blonde on Blonde.

Sign O&#039;The Times is still tops though.</description>
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<p>Sign O&#8217;The Times is still tops though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ziggy S is great but it&#039;s something like my (counts fingers) 7th? 8th? favourite Bowie album.</description>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by lonepilgrim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend Marcello&#039;s reappraisal of &#039;Sergeant Pepper&#039; over at his blog; it made me warm to an album I thought I&#039;d never want to hear again. 
I haven&#039;t listened to &#039;Rubber Soul&#039; for a while but &#039;What goes on&#039; and &#039;Run for your life&#039; are a bit weak in comparison to the rest of the tracks (against stiff competition). 
It may reflect the effect of iTunes shuffle that the Beatles albums I enjoy most these days are the more varied ones such as the White Album, &#039;Past Masters 2&#039; and &#039;Magical Mystery Tour&#039;. 
I used to be totally obsessed with Van Morrison and &#039;Astral Weeks&#039; back in the 80s but now don&#039;t have a single track by him on iTunes. That may be because I&#039;d rather listen to a complete album by him (as I would choose to listen to Dark Side of the Moon or, er, Space Ritual) rather than isolated tracks mixed in with other stuff. 
I&#039;ve never understood why Ziggy Stardust gets SO much love for the music (although I appreciate its significance for other reasons). &#039;Blonde on Blonde&#039; and &#039;Sign of the Times&#039; aren&#039;t my favourite albums by those artists - although I rate them highly.
Is one of the problems with a canon of popular music is that each album is a unique artefact whereas connoisseurs of orchestral music and jazz can split hairs over different interpretations of the same work?
Having said that the appetite for alternate takes and remastered versions may appeal to a similar impulse.

I think another reason for my aversion to &#039;classic albums&#039; is that if I buy &#039;Kind of Blue&#039; and say I like it, the response will be &#039;Well, Duh!&#039; I want to think my tastes are more discerning and individual than they really are.

Oh, and I loved &#039;Rabbit Fur Coat&#039; as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend Marcello&#8217;s reappraisal of &#8216;Sergeant Pepper&#8217; over at his blog; it made me warm to an album I thought I&#8217;d never want to hear again.<br />
I haven&#8217;t listened to &#8216;Rubber Soul&#8217; for a while but &#8216;What goes on&#8217; and &#8216;Run for your life&#8217; are a bit weak in comparison to the rest of the tracks (against stiff competition).<br />
It may reflect the effect of iTunes shuffle that the Beatles albums I enjoy most these days are the more varied ones such as the White Album, &#8216;Past Masters 2&#8242; and &#8216;Magical Mystery Tour&#8217;.<br />
I used to be totally obsessed with Van Morrison and &#8216;Astral Weeks&#8217; back in the 80s but now don&#8217;t have a single track by him on iTunes. That may be because I&#8217;d rather listen to a complete album by him (as I would choose to listen to Dark Side of the Moon or, er, Space Ritual) rather than isolated tracks mixed in with other stuff.<br />
I&#8217;ve never understood why Ziggy Stardust gets SO much love for the music (although I appreciate its significance for other reasons). &#8216;Blonde on Blonde&#8217; and &#8216;Sign of the Times&#8217; aren&#8217;t my favourite albums by those artists &#8211; although I rate them highly.<br />
Is one of the problems with a canon of popular music is that each album is a unique artefact whereas connoisseurs of orchestral music and jazz can split hairs over different interpretations of the same work?<br />
Having said that the appetite for alternate takes and remastered versions may appeal to a similar impulse.</p>
<p>I think another reason for my aversion to &#8216;classic albums&#8217; is that if I buy &#8216;Kind of Blue&#8217; and say I like it, the response will be &#8216;Well, Duh!&#8217; I want to think my tastes are more discerning and individual than they really are.</p>
<p>Oh, and I loved &#8216;Rabbit Fur Coat&#8217; as well</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by Tom</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say Rubber Soul&#039;s &quot;pretensions&quot; (soul musicians! comedians! French people!) are as glaring as Pepper&#039;s, probably carried off less well, but I like both records a great deal. Revolver&#039;s my favourite I&#039;d guess.

Prince&#039;s canonicity mostly not helped by, er, Prince. But he&#039;s still very much in there I&#039;d say.

I have that 200 albums book, it&#039;s in France though.</description>
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<p>Prince&#8217;s canonicity mostly not helped by, er, Prince. But he&#8217;s still very much in there I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p>I have that 200 albums book, it&#8217;s in France though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by LondonLee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;a hobby which has led me to buy Yes Please by Happy Mondays (thumbs down) and Wings’ Red Rose Speedway (thumbs aloft)?&lt;/I&gt;

I do this with writers, I read all of Orwell&#039;s &lt;I&gt;other&lt;/I&gt; novels before I got to 1984. I think this goes with the music fans dread of wanting to seem obvious - like picking Sgt. Pepper for greatest album ever made (Rosie, for years it pretty much topped every single list I ever saw – it was the Citizen Kane of albums. It was the aftermath of punk that knocked it off it&#039;s perched as people&#039;s perspective on intricate concept albums changed and they switched to the more pure-pop pleasures of &#039;Revolver&#039;)

Double thumbs up for &#039;Rabbit Fur Coat&#039; from me too. I bought it on red vinyl the other week (already had the CD too)</description>
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<p>I do this with writers, I read all of Orwell&#8217;s <i>other</i> novels before I got to 1984. I think this goes with the music fans dread of wanting to seem obvious &#8211; like picking Sgt. Pepper for greatest album ever made (Rosie, for years it pretty much topped every single list I ever saw – it was the Citizen Kane of albums. It was the aftermath of punk that knocked it off it&#8217;s perched as people&#8217;s perspective on intricate concept albums changed and they switched to the more pure-pop pleasures of &#8216;Revolver&#8217;)</p>
<p>Double thumbs up for &#8216;Rabbit Fur Coat&#8217; from me too. I bought it on red vinyl the other week (already had the CD too)</p>
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		<title>Comment on STARSHIP &#8211; &#8220;Nothing&#8217;s Gonna Stop Us Now&#8221; by swanstep</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this thread has blasted off (!) hasn&#039;t it?

Canon formation is interesting and tricky. Consdier the recent fortunes of country/alt-country/bluegrass. Soome of my favorite records of the last ten years have been from this area, esp. Loretta Lynn&#039;s Van lear Rose and Jenny Lewis&#039;s Rabbit Fur Coat. I fricking loved and still love those records.... and I *thought* everyone else did too (they got *record of the year*-type reviews when they were first released), and I thought they were well on the way to being canon. I was very surprised then when end-of-decade lists came out late last year to see them hardly mentioned.

What&#039;s happened? I conjecture that over the same period, as part of the same increased general interest in country/bluegrass, the Carter family and Johnny Cash are now much more canonical for general/rock/pop music fans than they used to be. Everyone listens to and likes and really *gets* that stuff now whereas even in the &#039;90s only a much narrower group really listened to or knew about any of it. This new deep enthusiasm and canonization may have, somewhat perversely, drained away much of the original enthusiasm that attended Jenny Lewis, et al..

I *think* something similar may have happened with Prince in the &#039;80s etc.: stuff that seemed evidently canonical at the time ended up undermining its own status over the next ten years or so because it inspired lots of people to dig deeper into james brown and p-funk etc., and then,for a lot of people &#039;who needs prince?&#039; became a very good question. My strong sense is that Pet Sounds, Forever Changes, and Odyssey and Oracle has similar trajectories: for a decade or two after their initial semi-successes they were relatively obscure records that musicians freely strip-mined, then they got great cd releases in the 90s at which point they became truly canonical and all the strip-miners (everyone from lloyd cole to kravitz to weezer) suffered a serious downgrade. Or something.

@89 Rosie. (i) I think a *lot* of people prefer Rubber Soul to Sgt Pepper (I do). I fact, I think it&#039;s pretty hard  not to end up rating Rubber Soul over revolver. RS is pure joy, and if one rejects SP for its pretension etc. then almost inevitably R starts to get tarred with the same brush. RS, however, is complete paydirt and is at the bottom of the slippery slope away from SP&#039;s alleged pompousness and calculation. (ii) I played the first 5 songs or so from Tapestry at a party recently and it almost drove people completely mad! Everyone knew the songs, but had no idea who it was, and indeed couldn&#039;t remember why the songs sounded so familiar.... So, I gather Tapestry isn&#039;t at all on the radar of anyone born after, say, the mid &#039;70s. The Bacharach and Carpenters waves of appreciation of the last decade or so haven&#039;t helped that record at all apparently. Maybe Glee will resurrect it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this thread has blasted off (!) hasn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Canon formation is interesting and tricky. Consdier the recent fortunes of country/alt-country/bluegrass. Soome of my favorite records of the last ten years have been from this area, esp. Loretta Lynn&#8217;s Van lear Rose and Jenny Lewis&#8217;s Rabbit Fur Coat. I fricking loved and still love those records&#8230;. and I *thought* everyone else did too (they got *record of the year*-type reviews when they were first released), and I thought they were well on the way to being canon. I was very surprised then when end-of-decade lists came out late last year to see them hardly mentioned.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s happened? I conjecture that over the same period, as part of the same increased general interest in country/bluegrass, the Carter family and Johnny Cash are now much more canonical for general/rock/pop music fans than they used to be. Everyone listens to and likes and really *gets* that stuff now whereas even in the &#8217;90s only a much narrower group really listened to or knew about any of it. This new deep enthusiasm and canonization may have, somewhat perversely, drained away much of the original enthusiasm that attended Jenny Lewis, et al..</p>
<p>I *think* something similar may have happened with Prince in the &#8217;80s etc.: stuff that seemed evidently canonical at the time ended up undermining its own status over the next ten years or so because it inspired lots of people to dig deeper into james brown and p-funk etc., and then,for a lot of people &#8216;who needs prince?&#8217; became a very good question. My strong sense is that Pet Sounds, Forever Changes, and Odyssey and Oracle has similar trajectories: for a decade or two after their initial semi-successes they were relatively obscure records that musicians freely strip-mined, then they got great cd releases in the 90s at which point they became truly canonical and all the strip-miners (everyone from lloyd cole to kravitz to weezer) suffered a serious downgrade. Or something.</p>
<p>@89 Rosie. (i) I think a *lot* of people prefer Rubber Soul to Sgt Pepper (I do). I fact, I think it&#8217;s pretty hard  not to end up rating Rubber Soul over revolver. RS is pure joy, and if one rejects SP for its pretension etc. then almost inevitably R starts to get tarred with the same brush. RS, however, is complete paydirt and is at the bottom of the slippery slope away from SP&#8217;s alleged pompousness and calculation. (ii) I played the first 5 songs or so from Tapestry at a party recently and it almost drove people completely mad! Everyone knew the songs, but had no idea who it was, and indeed couldn&#8217;t remember why the songs sounded so familiar&#8230;. So, I gather Tapestry isn&#8217;t at all on the radar of anyone born after, say, the mid &#8217;70s. The Bacharach and Carpenters waves of appreciation of the last decade or so haven&#8217;t helped that record at all apparently. Maybe Glee will resurrect it.</p>
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